Comments on: Unlock Democracy welcomes PM’s call for participatory decision making http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043 The UK's leading campaign for democracy, rights and freedoms. Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:49:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Phil Green http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043&cpage=1#comment-37589 Phil Green Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:53:24 +0000 http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043#comment-37589 Genuine community involvement is particularly needed in our response to climate change and sustainability. (1) Citizens’ juries, even if hyped up as 'summits' (summit of what?), have, as Peter points out many limitations. As the Phillis report (2) (January 2004) said, we need continuous dialogue. We also need a way for genuine community involvement in local decision making and even trans national conversations. Solutions exists to help with all of this. Unfortunately not only governments, but also establishment civil society and NGOs, mostly ignore them. See also "Will Gordon Brown be remembered for fiddling with community involvement while the planet burns?", on the Sustainable Community Action wiki (3) This comment/article was first published on the Sustainable Community Action wiki. (1) Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, September 13 2007, http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/environment__food_and_rural_affairs/efra_pn62_070913.cfm (2) http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/gcreview/News/index.htm (3) Sustainable Community Action wiki http://sca21.wikia.com Will Gordon Brown be remembered for fiddling with community involvement while the planet burns? http://sca21.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Will_Gordon_Brown_be_remembered_for_fiddling_with_community_involvement_while_the_planet_burns%3F&t=20070812165421 Genuine community involvement is particularly needed in our response to climate change and sustainability. (1)

Citizens’ juries, even if hyped up as ‘summits’ (summit of what?), have, as Peter points out many limitations. As the Phillis report (2) (January 2004) said, we need continuous dialogue. We also need a way for genuine community involvement in local decision making and even trans national conversations. Solutions exists to help with all of this. Unfortunately not only governments, but also establishment civil society and NGOs, mostly ignore them. See also “Will Gordon Brown be remembered for fiddling with community involvement while the planet burns?”, on the Sustainable Community Action wiki (3)

This comment/article was first published on the Sustainable Community Action wiki.

(1) Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, September 13 2007, http://www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_committees/environment__food_and_rural_affairs/efra_pn62_070913.cfm
(2) http://archive.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/gcreview/News/index.htm
(3) Sustainable Community Action wiki http://sca21.wikia.com
Will Gordon Brown be remembered for fiddling with community involvement while the planet burns?
http://sca21.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Will_Gordon_Brown_be_remembered_for_fiddling_with_community_involvement_while_the_planet_burns%3F&t=20070812165421

]]> By: john cleary http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043&cpage=1#comment-36605 john cleary Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:55:36 +0000 http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043#comment-36605 This is waffle. A HUGE problem for years was Goldsmith as attorney general. Time after time he took prosecution decisions "in the public interest" which were no such thing. None of that could have happened if we still had the grand juries which were abolished in 1933. Give us back the grand jury, one of the lynchpins of the English common law. That would be a REAL citizens jury. This is waffle. A HUGE problem for years was Goldsmith as attorney general. Time after time he took prosecution decisions “in the public interest” which were no such thing. None of that could have happened if we still had the grand juries which were abolished in 1933.
Give us back the grand jury, one of the lynchpins of the English common law.
That would be a REAL citizens jury.

]]> By: JO http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043&cpage=1#comment-36448 JO Tue, 04 Sep 2007 04:20:06 +0000 http://www.unlockdemocracy.org.uk/?p=1043#comment-36448 If Gordon Brown were seriously "committed to giving people a greater say over government policy and revitalising Britain’s democracy." then he would allow the British people a vote on the proposed EU Constitution as was promised in Labours 2005 election manifesto. Patently.. he is not even one little bit serious. JO If Gordon Brown were seriously “committed to giving people a greater say over government policy and revitalising Britain’s democracy.” then he would allow the British people a vote on the proposed EU Constitution as was promised in Labours 2005 election manifesto.
Patently.. he is not even one little bit serious.
JO

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